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TS Thread repairs

Started by SunbeamS7, 13 Nov 2021 at 19:40

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SunbeamS7

Greetings fellow Douglas owners,
I have several TS cylinders in rather good shape-- except for the threads on the intake flanges, which as we know, are cast integral to cylinder. Just wondered if anyone has ideas/solutions/experience/ a service, on how to repair these? I had wondered about building the flanges up via brasing and then set up an alignment jig (?) and re-cut threads with 1 1/4 x 20 BSCY die (once i can find one!) to original size/thread. Solutions/Ideas appreciated, as i suspect i cant be the only one running into this.
Regards
bryan

cardan

Hi Bryan,
Inlet threads are usually a bit easier to work with than exhausts that have often had some serious heat treatment.
How bad are the threads? If not too bad, you can have a go with a thread file, or a thread chaser, or a combination of the two. It's slow but if you go carefully it should be possible to end up with a thread that is both workable and round. Measure as you go. Finally make nuts to suit.
When I restore stuff, I try to avoid drastic treatments like welding unless it's absolutely necessary. My experience is that bad things happen - not always, but mostly to me!
Cheers
Leon

Doug

It is difficult to sync with the existing threads when they are brazed up. Also, threading in and out of braze or weld material and the base metal tends to not give a good finish unless you completely undercut the old thread and cut the new threads in homogeneous material.

One method is show here an an A31 head:

https://www.douglasmotorcycles.net/index.php?topic=3420.msg12526#msg12526

Turning a new stub with the thread saves having to swing the entire head in a lathe to chase a thread. The cutting off of the old stub and boring a hole for the new stub was done in a vertical miller where it was easier to setup for odd angles. 

-Doug

eddie

I concur with Leon's comments. In the majority of cases, it should be possible to obtain a satisfactory thread without going too far undersize (the threads often look a lot worse than they actually are!) - a split die will often close down enough to clean up the thread. You then just need to remake the nuts to suit - either by screwcutting or obtaining a suitable undersized tap. When re-assembling, give the threads a coat of 'Coppaslip' or high temperature Molyslip grease to prevent further wear/damage. Unless you are extremely experienced, dont be tempted to go down the route that involves any heating - these barrels are now near on 100 years old, and therefore likely to suffer all sorts of cracking and distortion - it's best to keep the repairs relatively crude and simple!

   Regards,
                Eddie.

SunbeamS7

Many thanks to all of you for your considered responses and advice, greatly appreciated. Unfortunately the threads are largely non-existent so there isnt anything left, to try and clean up.
I would also be remiss in not saying that although i have owned/ worked on multiple years/makes/models of motorcycles almost all my life, i am both grateful for, and extremely impressed with this forum, the wealth of information and the willingness of fellow Douglas enthusiasts to so kindly share their knowledge. Getting a belt drive Douglas (now 3 of them!) was a dream come true for me and this forum has been invaluable in realizing/restoring that dream.
Many thanks,
(if anyone knows a source for the required 1 1/4 BSCY die, for inlet flange,  i'd appreciate it).
bryan

chris mac

Don't underestimate the ability of high temperature epoxies such as Lab Metal or JB,  generally good to 1000F
Bore out the old stub, thread a new stub on the lathe and epoxy in place