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My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« on: 19 Feb 2010 at 04:51 »
Just bought this bike,has had 2 owners,spent 20 odd years in a study,he past on went to the daughter, she had it in the lounge room for 50 odd years.
What do you think?

« Last Edit: 19 Feb 2010 at 20:03 by Dave »
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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #1 on: 19 Feb 2010 at 06:58 »
Hi Dougie
    Looks like a very nice original TS 23 and having been stored for so long it has probably done a very low mileage. You have not given your location Dougie but it was rare and non standard in the UK for the TS to have footboards although Douglas would supply anything that the customer required within reason. The footboard version was however particularly popular in Australia. Is this your location?   Chris.

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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #2 on: 19 Feb 2010 at 07:03 »
Hi thanks for the reply, i am in Australia cant work out to do my profile. the bike has never been restored it is like this due to the house sitting it had for all those years. Would you know the rough value in the UK for a bike like this for example?
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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #3 on: 19 Feb 2010 at 16:10 »
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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #4 on: 19 Feb 2010 at 16:31 »
Hi Dougie
   I don't like valuing machines as there are so many variables like history, provenance, condition which is difficult to assess from photographs, originality whether or not it has its original registration and whether it is transferable. (Important in the UK as original registrations have often been sold for up to 2000 and then age related plates fitted). There are also differences in whether it is being sold by a private individual or one of the very expensive specialist dealers. Prices in auction are not a good guide as it depends entirely how many people want the machine and some desirable bikes have gone to the USA for very high sums.
  What I have noticed however is that 2.3/4hp machines seem to sell for a lot less in Australia than in the UK. If we import however we then have the shipping cost.  The Dragonfly seems to sell for more in Australia than in the UK perhaps due to its scarcity there and the cost of shipping imports to you. The best guide is to look at the prices asked in the classic bike magazines although prices are changing quite rapidly at the moment and of course these machines do not come up for sale all that often. Chris.
 
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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #5 on: 19 Feb 2010 at 20:22 »
Hi it was sold on Ebay Australia for AU$10,800  http://cgi.ebay.com.au/douglas-ew-350-1923-original-condition_W0QQitemZ190371618218QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item2c53085daa
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hi  this  is  my  douglas  350  ew  1923  this   bike  was  in  a  family  for  50  years  i am  the  second  owner  bike  is  original  and  has  not  been  started  for  some  time,  about  2  years  this  bike  is  100  percent  correct  and  only  needs  hand  grips  too  make 100  percent  complete  ,  this  bike  would  be  worthy  in  any  collection  as  it  is  not  a  mismatch  bike , tyres  seem  good  ,engine  gears  all  move  freely  in  my  opinion  does  not  need  restoreing.  try  finding  like  this  virtualy  impossible  ,  can  frieght  at  your  cost  realistic  reserve  ,no  tyre  kickers  please  bid  too  buy not too  look  happy  bidding  cheers  will  put  engine vin    numbers  up  tommorow


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On 09-Feb-10 at 08:23:21 AEDST, seller added the following information:

sorry  for  confusion  it  is  a  ts  350   1923 model  all  correct . engine  number  60045 , vin  66173, ebay  member  has  told  me   even  rarer  than  ew  350  thanks again



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On 11-Feb-10 at 10:34:21 AEDST, seller added the following information:

just  too  let  every  one  know  it  has  been  started  running  a  bit  rough  due  too  needs  carby  clean  out , plugs  etc , just  fettling  as  it  has  not  been  started  for  long  time  thanks



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On 16-Feb-10 at 18:02:43 AEDST, seller added the following information:

KEEP  WATCHING ON  WATCH  LIST , AS  I  WILL  BE  LISTING  RUDGE ULSTER 1930  EX  RACER  WITH  HISTORY IN  RUNNING  CONDITION  SHORTLY ,THANKS


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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #6 on: 19 Feb 2010 at 22:07 »
Well it's pretty clear how much the machine is worth - and I must say this is top whack for a vintage 2 3/4! Perhaps they aren't as cheap in Australia now Chris
This is absolutely maddening - you would hope that people could be up front about what they are doing when they ask questions on this forum. Obviously he only wanted to know what the value is to see if it got bid up to the price - and in this case it would have gone well over anyone's estimate. Perhpas it is time to moderate posts before they go up to weed out any that ask for machine's values - clearly disingenuous people are taking us for fools here. :x

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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #7 on: 20 Feb 2010 at 08:21 »
Gee guys i think that is very rude of you to asume that,
I have had bikes  since i was 10 years old, I did not think you would grabble on a person because they like bikes and bought one on Ebay,if i bought from a swap meet would that be ok!
As for value you all would be surprised with alot of bikes out there for future up turn in value as time progesses.
Sorry for some who are so narrow minded, not to broaden their thoughts to maybe.... he's a first owner of a Douglas, but not be rude about it....Lets help him out.
Sorry again i bought it on ebay and not at one of your swaps! What wrong with asking about price,most people would be helpfull in this regard, At least i'm going to preserve this wonderful machine!
I have 6 bikes all up thankyou! I am also aware that the pic has a Ebay logo in the bottom corner, if i wanted to hide the fact, i would have cropped the pic.

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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #8 on: 20 Feb 2010 at 10:51 »
OK - sorry about my confusion here.  :oops: When I saw the post saying it was sold on eBay I presumed it had just been sold. People who have been on this forum for a while would have seen numerous times where someone has asked for the value of a machine or part, to find that the next thing it is up on ebay - with no notification even that it is for sale. I think most of us now avoid giving any sort of clue as to what something is worth to avoid this sort of thing happening.
Anyway, I guess you know what I used to think what a 2 3/4 was worth - but, as always, something is worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for it. I hope you have a lot of enjoyment from your purchase.

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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #9 on: 20 Feb 2010 at 20:59 »
If you did some research, you would find the TS350 1923 to be valued at more than you think!
Its more the age and condition of a bike or anything else working or not, that give it value, Can you tell what they are worth in 10 years, NO/
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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #10 on: 21 Feb 2010 at 23:41 »
Douggie, I hope you will be bringing your new purchase to the next Australian Douglas Rally - to be held in late September - I have one the same and they are great fun to ride.

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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #11 on: 22 Feb 2010 at 09:33 »
Hi Dougie
   I can only confirm what Ian has just said as he was kind enough to lend me his TS23 to ride in the Centenary Rally in 2007. I visited Australia to take part in the first Australian Douglas Rally and it was a very memorable experience. Obviously I was unable to bring any of my machines from England and will be eternally grateful for Ian's offer of his machine which performed faultlessly for me. I also of course met so many Douglas owners and saw so many wonderful machines. Australia certainly received and kept many rare and exotic bikes when Douglas were in their exporting mood. I will be unable to attend the forthcoming Rally in September but am giving serious consideration to attending the next one, age and health permitting, again hoping that someone will be kind enough to provide wheels. Chris.

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Re: My Douglas TS 350 1923 model
« Reply #13 on: 29 Mar 2010 at 10:39 »
Gee mate if you read i'm going thru bad times at presant. to be honest marriage and house on the rocks, so be fair i can sell what i like as i also have to sell the f....... House.
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