Author Topic: Veteran douglas colours  (Read 8786 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Ian

  • Master Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2004
  • Posts: 1287
  • Location: The Oaks, NSW, Australia
Veteran douglas colours
« on: 01 Nov 2007 at 23:30 »
Folks, were 2.75hp Douglas of the 1914 era ever painted in colours other than those we would consider "standard" Douglas ? (blue and silver with black frames) ?

Offline Ian

  • Master Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2004
  • Posts: 1287
  • Location: The Oaks, NSW, Australia
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #1 on: 04 Nov 2007 at 20:33 »
My question relates to the Douglas which has been popping up on various ebay sites round the world. A friend is interested in it - and we have talked about the potential value of the bike and that he would have to price in a total repaint. However I just wanted to be certain that there is no chance Douglas would ever have done a "special" in that tank colour - or a dealer for that matter. The bike has come up again on the UK ebay site. My friend knows the guy selling it and has been looking at it outside ebay.

What should I tell him ?

Offline Doug

  • Administrator
  • ****
  • Join Date: Mar 2004
  • Posts: 4313
  • Location: Glen Mills, PA, USA
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #2 on: 04 Nov 2007 at 23:27 »
Ian,

Can not recall having heard a mention of such, except for the khaki models of the late WW1 period. Anyone else?

-Doug

Offline TonyC

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 75
  • Location: Kingswood
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #3 on: 24 Nov 2007 at 17:07 »
Hi,
From what I can gather the frames of early Douglas motorcycles were always Black.
But if the Factory or Dealer was asked for a special request they might accommodate it.
I have attached a postcard posted on Jan 18th in 1923 from Bristol to Manchester.
The back of it is quite dirty so it is hard to read but this is what it says;

INDIVIDUALITY
Have you ever been struck by the monotonous
  "sameness"  of motor cycles generally? Take
any  particular make and you will find the finish
lacking individuality. How would you like to be
compelled to wear the same colour socks, the
same colour tie and hat as the other fellow?
  There is no need for this "sameness" ----Buy
a Coram Douglas and have the tank finished to
your own liking. It costs you nothing extra.
Make a mental note of some of these artistic
colour schemes:--
      Brown and chocolate panels and double gold lines.
      Lemon with chocolate panels and single chocolate lines.
      Robin egg blue, with Douglas blue panels and blue lines.
      Chocolate with gold leaf panels and white single lines.
      Black with carmine panels and white lines.

W.  G.  CORAM,
The Douglas Specialist
(Ten years with Douglas Motors Ltd)
                   140 Victoria St., Bristol
                         Telephone: Bristol 3792







« Last Edit: 26 Nov 2007 at 19:45 by Dave »

Offline Chris

  • Master Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2004
  • Posts: 509
  • Location: Kent, UK.
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #4 on: 24 Nov 2007 at 19:57 »
     Coram of Bristol were very well known and supplied many after market accessories for Douglas such as Zoom Zoom exhausts and high compression pistons. I  have little doubt that the statements in the Douglas handbooks warning of the dangers and inadvisability of buying non Douglas spares was aimed at firms like Coram.
    I have never seen or heard of the colour schemes offered by them and described in the posting above by TonyC but I have heard of reports of a batch of S6 models of 1930 issued by Douglas with red tanks and there is a 4hp model used extensively throughout the year in the UK with a purple tank which the owner believes to be original. It is certainly true that Douglas would modify and supply to order if the customer was prepared to pay.   Chris.

Offline Dave

  • Administrator
  • ****
  • Join Date: Mar 2004
  • Posts: 3952
  • Location: Australia
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #5 on: 26 Nov 2007 at 19:46 »
Photos added to TonyC's post above.

Offline MRD

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 145
  • Location: Hants. U.K.
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #6 on: 26 Nov 2007 at 21:20 »
The "standard" coloured tank is the only one with two fillers, I wonder if there is a reason for this.
Regards  MRD

Offline graeme

  • Master Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Oct 2004
  • Posts: 613
  • Location: Hobart, Australia
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #7 on: 26 Nov 2007 at 23:39 »
Artisitic licence - or they are 3 1/2 or 4hp tanks.

Offline Ian

  • Master Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2004
  • Posts: 1287
  • Location: The Oaks, NSW, Australia
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #8 on: 27 Nov 2007 at 03:02 »
The interesting thing is the only custom coloured component was the tank

Offline Doug

  • Administrator
  • ****
  • Join Date: Mar 2004
  • Posts: 4313
  • Location: Glen Mills, PA, USA
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #9 on: 27 Nov 2007 at 12:39 »
Quote
The interesting thing is the only custom coloured component was the tank.

Probably the easiest thing for them to swap out, maybe even keeping one each of the five tank colours on the shelf? (This would be long before the days of lean inventory and just in time manufacturing!) If so, perhaps the other reason only 3-1/2 & 4hp petrol tanks are shown in custom paint is more folk would be inclined to spend the extra money to dress up the larger, more expensive model than a budget priced 2-3/4hp. 

Though against that thought they show a 2-3/4hp fitted with their optional 'zoom-zoom' exhaust. Perhaps a 2-3/4hp owner would be incline to spend a little extra for a perceived performance enhancement. Had they a special 2-3/4hp petrol tank on offer, you would think they would have shown it in their advertisement. Or it could have just been an oversight!  :)

-Doug

Offline Chris

  • Master Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2004
  • Posts: 509
  • Location: Kent, UK.
Re: Veteran douglas colours
« Reply #10 on: 27 Nov 2007 at 15:38 »
The photo of the complete machine also shows what appear to be very stylish alloy footboards made to connect from the standard footpegs extending forwards. Another of Coram's bolt on goodies?  Chris.

 

motorcycle