Thank's Dave, i will adjust my mix and see how it goes. Just as a matter of interest, one piece of very lightly rusted steel i put in the 50-50 mix is almost clean after 24 hours of imersion. This might save all of us a lot of work by the look of it. My shed is a bit smelly today but i figure it will be worth it. If you like the smell of rum it won't bother you too much. Cheers Mate Regards Col