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Offline Dave

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Salvos need a bike identified
« on: 24 Jan 2006 at 02:41 »
Received this email today from the Salvos.

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Hi there friends

We, the Salvos, are looking at making a trading card set of Salvation Army vehiecles, both historical and current.  We need, with each image, a set of statistics.  Would you at all be able to tell us some details about the motorbike seen here in this image?   
We need to know:
Make:
Model:
Engine Type -
0-100kmh - Approx timeframe
Fuel Consumption - out of 5
Any Special Features?

Thank you for your help.
Tim

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Timothy McPherson
Territorial Director - Major Gifts
The Salvation Army Australia
Level 2/26-28 Prospect St
Box Hill        VIC     3128




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Re: Salvos need a bike identified
« Reply #1 on: 24 Jan 2006 at 03:14 »
Points of interest are:
-Single front down tube frame, a lightweight twin.
-Sump model- oil fill spout just visible to the fore of the rear exhaust port, and some horizontal fins visible below the front exhaust port (hard to see as the foot boards block most of the view.
-Hand change gate, not through knee grip but a separate gate, again indicative of the lightweight sump models (i.e., not an A31.)
-Petrol tank not reflective enough to be chromium plate, rather one of the painted aluminum enamel jobs, (i.e., not H3 or B31)
So what does that leave? Well, a 350cc side valve twin model B29 (1929, first year for the saddle tank) or the same model of the following year, a L3. The L3 was cataloged as having foot pegs and not foot boards, but this is not a hard and fast rule as you could likely order it anyway you pleased.

0-100kmh. Are you serious?

-Doug
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Re: Salvos need a bike identified
« Reply #2 on: 24 Jan 2006 at 04:23 »
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0-100kmh. Are you serious?

I would think by the tread-less front tyre fitted - an early slick! - they are deadly serious about how quick it went from 0-100kmh!
 
-Graeme
« Last Edit: 24 Jan 2006 at 11:34 by Doug »

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Re: Salvos need a bike identified
« Reply #3 on: 24 Jan 2006 at 23:01 »
going by the exhuast L3 had fishtail and b29 had no fishtail
doug i think u have picked it
maybe we should also inform them that a douglas was the first bike to circumnavigate australia
i could send them the info as im only 15 kms away from box hill in victoria
the only think id be missing would be 0 to 100 anyone own one of these bikes an have an accurate calendar lol
Or john withers may have something more befiiting a historic view of douglas i have only the douglas 1927 to 39 range specs
« Last Edit: 24 Jan 2006 at 23:24 by trevorp »

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Re: Salvos need a bike identified
« Reply #4 on: 24 Jan 2006 at 23:45 »
Trevor, I'll PM you Timothy McPherson's phone numbers and email in case you feel like contacting him.

Dave

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Re: Salvos need a bike identified
« Reply #5 on: 25 Jan 2006 at 03:12 »
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going by the exhaust L3 had fishtail and b29 had no fishtail

The presence or lack of a Fishtail is not definitive. It slips on (or off), and is held with a pinch bolt at the bottom. Slip-on fishtails of that particular type were available from 1927 onwards, maybe earlier. While the catalog illustration for the B29 does not show a fishtail on the exhaust, the text description mentions one fitted. If you did not have one, I am sure it is one of those items that could be bought as an accessory.

I found a road test on the B29 in the March 20, 1929 issue of Motor Cycling. Therein it gives a maximum speed of 55mph and a petrol consumption of 80mpg averaged. It also shows a B29 with fishtail fitted. But again, presence or lack of fishtail is not 100% reliable for identification.

-Doug

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Re: Salvos need a bike identified
« Reply #6 on: 30 Jan 2006 at 05:17 »
i have replied to tim who was much extremly happy with the help of our forum
Dear members and associates

Thanks a heap for taking the time to send through this info.  Herein is an
example of the kind of trading card game we are making with that info.  We
intend to have the cards printed in about 2 weeks and available in 3.
Having the motorbikes int he set, 2 in total, makes them so much more
interesting.

Thanks again for helping the Salvos (the money raised from these cards
will go straight to the provision of food for the Melbourne homeless
work).

All the best
Tim


His attachment didnt work but i figure i will help out and buy a set when they come out may end up a collectors item

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Re: Salvos need a bike identified
« Reply #7 on: 05 Feb 2006 at 20:23 »
Just a little bit of late info. I have a B29 I am restoring (thought to be B31 when I got it) and have since obtained an original 1929 sales advert covering the complete range for 1929.
The spec for the silencer reads as follows:- Enlarged silencer, improved type, with two large plated exhaust pipes discharging into suitable container and thence through tail pipe and fish tail to atmosphere.
Footrests:- Aluminium rubber studded footboards or footrests at option. Ground clearance has been carefully studied and the machine is capable of being ridden over rough roads.

The price was 45.
Acetylene head and rear lamps, generator and horn. 30/- extra
Douglas B.T.H separate unit electric lighting system (head and tail). 6 5s. extra
Twistgrips were also an option.

All interesting even if it is a bit late for this time!
Tom