80 Plus wheel spoke sizes

[isettaman]

Hi All
Can anyone help me with the specifications for the spokes on my front wheel? I foolishly cut off the old spokes, keeping one of each long and short spokes only to discover that there are two different short spokes and similarly two different longer spokes.
John Holmes' excellent guide gives details for Mark wheels but, obviously, my front wheel is different, having the much larger brake drum. Should I just get shorter spokes with the same angled ends or is it more complicated than that?
Thanks
Dave

[eddie]

Dave,
          From memory, there are 2 lengths of spoke, but 4 part numbers because there are inner and outer lacing spokes of both lengths - the end result being short spokes with 80 degree head, short spokes with 100 degree head, long spokes with 80 degree head and long spokes with 100 degree head.
 Hope that makes sense.   Also, all your spoke lengths will be different to the Mark spokes as the Plus wheel has a 21" rim.
  Regards,
                 Eddie.

[isettaman]

Eddie
Thanks, that does make sense.
Dave

[veikko1]

Hello
Very interesting, I have also problem with plus spokes, because both wheels was breaking, when I bought it. All spokes was same box, and I like now asking them lenght ?
Regards Veikko

[roger h]

I'm over in Cumbria, if you would like to visit to measure up on my 90+
Regards,
Roger

[isettaman]

If you download Mark Holmes' Mark maintenance guide, he gives the lengths and angle for the ends of the spokes for both front and rear wheels. This is fine for the rear, but adjustment needs to be made for the front to take account of the different rim and hub sizes.

[douglas1947]

Dave,

I have respoked my 90+ frontwheel around 3 years ago.
I will look for a notice of the lenght.
I have measured at the wheel 172mm + 223mm.
Please wait, may be I will find spare spokes and can tell original lenght.

Michael

[douglas1947]

Dave,

I have searched in my workshop for the spare spokes 90+ front wheel with success:

Spoke lenght (measured from inside angle to end of thread) 230mm + 172mm.

Michael

[isettaman]

Thanks Michael
Can you confirm that all the spokes are the same gauge? 9swg?

Dave

[douglas1947]

Dave,

I have bought the spokes in Germany in Milimeter sizes.
The spokes I have got are 3,5mm, this seems similar to the original spokes on Douglas.

Michael

[isettaman]

Thanks Michael

[isettaman]

Ordered a full set of spokes and nipples from Devon Rim Company yesterday morning, arrived lunch time today.
Excellent service!